Earlier this week on MoChat, we discussed round-tripping between various apps. The most common transitions seem to be PS/AI>AE, C4D>AE, AE>NLE. Some of the highlights of the chat:

  • Dynamic Link between AE & Premiere Pro can work well if you know the limitations.
  • Info on interchange between After Effects and other Adobe apps.
  • AE CS6 has the functionality of Automatic Duck from their acquisition last year.
  • People tend to prefer importing AI & PSD at layer size, but importing at doc size can have its benefits.
  • ⌘/⌃E for editing documents in their original apps from AE.
  • Make sure to have the most recent plugins from Maxon for moving between AE& C4D.
  • PNG works great as an image sequence out of C4D, but can be slow to render out of AE.
  • OpenEXR, RPF, and RLA are other options to look into when rendering out of C4D.
  • If using the new Camera Morth tag in C4D r14, you will want to use AEC files instead of importing the C4D file directly into AE.

 

Transcript

#MOCHAT!9:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Welcome to tonight’s #MoChat on round-tripping between the various software we use.9:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Of course, many of us are probably familiar w/ C4D->AE workflows, but we’ll also be talking about AE->C4D PS/AI->AE, AE/C4D->NLE. #mochat9:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

To start things off, name the interchange/round-trip workflows you use most often. (eg, AE->C4D) #mochat9:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

#mochat yayzers #Mochat9:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I hear you like #mochat, so I put some #mochat in your #mochat! #mochat9:01 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Premiere > AE > Premiere > Audition is my most common process. #mochat9:01 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

My most frequent: PSD/AI>AE, C4D>AE, AE>C4D. Probably in that order. #mochat9:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Depends on what Im working on.. but what I use most often. is Premiere to AE & back.. though if Im in c4d I usually go c4d, ae, Prp #Mochat9:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

We realize this topic can be all over the map, so are there any immediate questions people have? Let’s start with dynamic link. #mochat9:03 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I occasionally sprinkle Psd and been using AI alot more now that Im using c4d. #Mochat9:03 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

After Effects (opening graphics+LowerThirds)> FCP > (occasionally C4D) > More AE (filters and better transitions) > FCP again #mochat9:04 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

awwwww yeah #mochat9:04 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

FYI, we’re here if anyone has any questions. #mochat9:04 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Hi everyone! my “app road” goes something like PSD/AI -> AE -> C4D -> AE -> PP (not always in that order) #mochat9:04 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Only been using Premiere Pro recently. How well does dynamic link work from AE>PrP? And is a comp in PrP anywhere near real-time? #mochat9:05 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : MOCHAT | What’s the best way to move between Adobe apps and #C4D? Join in #mochat today 9PM EDT GMT-4 via 9:05 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

sadly I almost never use D-link usually I pull in my footage from the Prp project or inport the whole thing into a seq #Mochat9:05 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I don’t find its in real time at all. It still needs to render. But that was also my pre-Mercury days. #mochat9:06 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

By the way, we’ll probably reserve AE>C4D, C4D>AE until the latter half of the #mochat.9:06 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

One thing to note is that a dynamically linked composition is only processed by one process, not using multiprocessing… #mochat9:06 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I think D-link is good for use on a clip or 2, but say you have a whole interview of Ckey footage Rather just take that into AE #Mochat9:07 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

But that one process can utilize multiple CPU cores & GPU, correct? #mochat9:07 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

using Dynamic Link, between PP and AE, is there a way to make AE plugins result show at PP without rendering at AE? #mochat9:07 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I have used D-Link to save my butt when AE would crash renders. But its most valuable to me w/ large projects with small AE bits #mochat9:08 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

multithreading on CPUs, yes. GPU, no. #mochat9:08 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

here’s my need: suggs for AvidMC3>PProCS6 migration for a DV res series I’ve edited over the years #mochat9:08 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : One thing to note is that a dynamically linked composition is only processed by one process, not using multiprocessing #mochat9:08 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

just discovered #mochat this is awesome9:08 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Automatic Duck works into AE, but need projects/bins/seqs in PPro #mochat9:09 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Cool welcome!! #Mochat9:09 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

That might be beyond the scope of the chat tonight, but I can see if I can send a few people your way. #mochat9:09 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

This page is a pretty good starting point for interchange between After Effects and other Adobe applications: http://t.co/05XeLuSg #mochat9:09 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Welcome! #mochat9:09 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Glad you could join us! #mochat9:10 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I think it works surprisingly well. comps play more realtime ppro than in ae. Wonky work flow if you want to uncomp in ppro #mochat9:10 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

you can actually inport an eniter Prp project into AE.. or just import it as footage. D-link “to me” is too clunky for rendering #Mochat9:10 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Does everyone know that we built the functionality from Automatic Duck into After Effects CS6? Details: http://t.co/74TGqPPx #mochat9:10 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

then again Im on a laptop.. #Mochat9:10 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Would appreciate that greatly! #mochat9:11 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

But not quite everything is converted when you do that. When you import a Premiere Pro project, a conversion step occurs. #mochat9:11 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

D-link isnt only for AE and Premiere Im pretty sure Encore and Media Composer make use of it rather heavily.. #Mochat9:12 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Ahh thanks.. did not know that.. usually Im using a barebones project. just to get my compositing started. #Mochat9:13 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

You mean Media Encoder, right? 😉 Yes, they do. #mochat9:13 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

yeah I’ve recently starting using that to import FCP XML files to AE. It’s been pretty successful so far #mochat9:13 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

i suck at #mochat tonight. Keep forgetting the hashtag.9:14 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

How does sending to Media Encoder from AE work? I’ve seen people talk about it but never felt the need to try it. #mochat9:14 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Whoops Yes SORRY Mah Bad.. I just saw the avid post.. #Im_an_idiot! #Mochat9:14 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Here are some tables that show exactly what is converted when copying/pasting or importing AE <-> PP: http://t.co/nCFDfrIe #mochat9:14 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

There are several ways. The easiest is to drag a composition from AE to AME. Then the rendering and encoding happen in AME. #mochat9:15 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

the only way Ive ever used AE and media encorder is just by rendering out a project file drag & drop. #Mochat9:15 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

try using http://t.co/IdC2VRdh it keeps the # in there for ya.. but there is a delay. #Mochat9:15 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

if you’re at a computer, login to http://t.co/IxXzZXZF it insterts the hashtag for you. #mochat9:15 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Here are details of getting items into Adobe Media Encoder, including AFter Effects compositions: http://t.co/QwdN5t0f #mochat9:16 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Oh I know. I’ve used it before. Super multitasking tonight though with work & missing too many of these #mochat9:16 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

You render in Encoder so that you can continue working in AE? Or for other reasons…? #mochat9:17 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

This video gives a taste of why you might want to use Adobe Media Encoder with After Effects: http://t.co/EpE280eZ #mochat9:17 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

what would be the benefit of using AME for that? use it as a background render and continue working inside AE? #mochat9:17 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

That’s one good reason. Another is parallel encoding. Another reason is an excellent preset browser… #mochat9:17 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

thanks for the links. #Mochat9:17 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

If I get a CUDA graphics card can I use a separate GUI card, or does the GUI have to be on the CUDA card? #mochat9:18 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Yep. #mochat9:18 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Those are all great reasons! Thanks, I never knew you could do that. #mochat9:19 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

preset browser also a bonus. not to mention Ive made custom presets in Prp and they show up in AME as well. #Mochat9:19 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Beyond dynamic link, how often to people bounce between AI/PS and AE with command/ctrl-E vs saving versions & reimporting? #mochat9:20 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

you just blew my mind. I’ve been using right click drop down menus for so long. time saver #mochat9:20 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

When working AI>AE I import my layered AI as a composition at layer size. ALWAYS! Is there ever a use to import at document size? #mochat9:21 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : you just blew my mind. I’ve been using right click drop down menus for so long. time saver #mochat9:21 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I tend to use ctrl-E when I’m editing something I’ve already animated, otherwise I just reload/reimport. #mochat9:21 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

great. thanks fot those links, great resources. Will check them after the chat #mochat9:21 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : This video gives a taste of why you might want to use Adobe Media Encoder with After Effects: http://t.co/EpE280eZ #mochat9:21 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I’ll import @ doc size if I think I’ll be changing any vectors. Otherwise relink will move everything around in AE. #mochat9:22 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : This video gives a taste of why you might want to use Adobe Media Encoder with After Effects: http://t.co/EpE280eZ #mochat9:23 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Doc size is handy if you’re popping a scene out into 3D planes and want to quickly eyeball the scale. #mochat9:23 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

IM HERE!!! IM HERE!!! better late than never i guess. #mochat9:23 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

i.e. if a layer was 100×100 and now it’s 134×90 it will be in a different place in the comp when I get back into AE. #mochat9:23 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Im gonna have to try ctrl-E from now on.. #Mochat9:25 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Sorry, that last tweet was for . #mochat9:25 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

AME simultaneous encoding in parallel niiiiiiice.. #Mochat9:26 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Super handy shortcut. Now if we could just reload footage from the timeline… (cc ) #mochat9:26 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

reloading from timeline, interesting… yet it would be handy.. for sure #Mochat9:27 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

What file format(s) do people use for getting files to and from AE for 3D/mograph workflows? #mochat9:27 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : This video gives a taste of why you might want to use Adobe Media Encoder with After Effects: http://t.co/EpE280eZ #mochat9:27 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

see you point, but I hate not having my anchor point centered where layer size does that w/out having to edit that manually #mochat9:27 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Oh, true. It’s not for every case, and I actually rarely do it. But it’s nice to have the option. #mochat9:28 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

that would be great , but you can righclick in the timeline, select reveal in project window and then right click, reload #mochat9:28 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Almost right on cue. Was just about to transition to C4D. #mochat9:28 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

ah cool. I will give that a try next time 🙂 #mochat9:28 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

OBJ for Form/Plexus/Element. PNG/AEC for renders out of C4D. #mochat9:29 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Right, but thanks for enlightening me on seeing document size differently than I do. #mochat9:30 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Moving on to C4D/AE workflows, just asked a good question… https://t.co/ryDC5K39 #mochat9:30 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Two steps needed where one would be better. #mochat9:30 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

is PNG better to render out of C4D than for example a targa sequence? #mochat9:31 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Are PNG files better than JPEG as far as sending to AE? #mochat9:31 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

yes, I totally agree and would be great with just one click. Was telling that other option in case you missed it #mochat9:32 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

maxon website make sure you have the plugins for exporting and importing c4d to AE.. though I havent tried taking a c4d file into AE #Mochat9:32 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I feel like PNG files can be smaller and more universally supported. Both are just my perception, though. #mochat9:32 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Yes. Less compression and ability to do 16-bit. Also: alpha channel. #mochat9:32 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Ive used both.. png sometimes give me errors in AE. Ive played around with RPF #Mochat9:32 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

thanks, I will try that next time. Which settings do you use for the PNG sequence? #mochat9:33 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I would use RPF a lot more if there was a good way to run AA on depth & object channels. #mochat9:33 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

esp if you use Object buffers IMO the png one up on jpegs in the alpha support. but w/ OB it doesnt really matter. #Mochat9:33 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Anyone use OpenEXR? RLA? RPF? PIC/ZPIC? EI? (Here’s information about these 3D image file formats: http://t.co/sUUswHXs ) #mochat9:34 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Hm. Plus the alpha is handy in PNG… #mochat9:34 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

openEXR is it supported in premiere as well? I seem to recall no.. #Mochat9:34 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I like PNGs because I know basically anyone I send them to (including non-technical folk) can open them. #mochat9:35 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RPF yes but its rather heavy on the render side with all the object info. and Ive never used RLA. #Mochat9:35 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Not without another plug-in, but the plug-in is available from fnord. #mochat9:35 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I sometimes use those if I want to use a depth pass in AE and don’t want to render a separate sequence just for that #mochat9:36 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I feel the same way about jpegs.. to be honest. #Mochat9:36 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I’ve actually started using a combo of PNG + WAVE files for archiving projects when I’m done. #mochat9:36 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Here’s some information about new(ish) ProEXR plug-ins for OpenEXR in Premiere Pro, Photoshop, After Effects: http://t.co/loWU3A1b #mochat9:37 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : Almost right on cue. Was just about to transition to C4D. #mochat9:37 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Used to use PNGs exclusively until I found that png seq out of ae took longer than tiff or tga’s. render tiffs outta c4d #mochat9:37 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Alright, say you do go with PNGs to AE… what anti-aliasing settings do you think are ideal? #mochat9:37 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Ive started using seq more often then Mov file for exporting or crossing between programs. #Mochat9:37 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

do you mean instead of saving the final video ? do you export that video as PNG sequence or the original project again ? #mochat9:38 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I guess #mochat has started…. I was at hour off… I guess our G+ hangout is an hour earlier. My bad guys… Crazy schedule this week. #Confused9:38 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

For graphics projects. Video edits are still usually quicktimes for archiving. #mochat9:38 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

What about straight up PSD files as seq? #Mochat9:38 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

How many people are utilizing the recent AE>C4D workflow? #mochat9:39 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Im gonna have to look into this.. thanks for the heads up.. #Mochat9:39 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

For me it comes down to file size. Though I’ve never done a thorough comparison of everything available. #mochat9:40 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

will it be as soon as the chat ends? How do I login to the hangout? #mochat9:40 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Used it today. I design styleframes in AE instead of PS – easy to get some cameras in for 3D object/particle generation #mochat9:40 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I still export multi pass and AEC files… #Mochat9:40 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : How many people are utilizing the recent AE>C4D workflow? #mochat9:41 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Was referring to sending AE 3D data to C4D, not opening up C4D files directly in AE. #mochat9:41 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

if it’s completly motion graphics (without videos) you just save a PNG sequence at the end instead of a quicktime? #mochat9:41 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I actually started using it more recently. Set up complex particular/form animations in AE. Send to C4D for 3D. #mochat9:41 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

yeah AEC works well for me. even with Camera Morph tag.. I dont think AE see this natively in the c4d file.. #mochat9:42 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Yeah. If one file goes bad, I can usually recover from it pretty well. I’ve had entire QT files die on me. #mochat9:42 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Actually, how do people deal with the lack of fractional frame rates (eg 23.976, 29.97) in C4D when round-tripping? #mochat9:43 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Ive done camera movement in AE using “SureTarget” and then Exported that data into C4D as well as the new CS6 camera tracker data #mochat9:43 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I always end up interpreting AE renders as 24 when going to C4D, then back to 23.976 when I get C4D files back into AE. #mochat9:44 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

very good tip #mochat9:44 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

haven’t wrapped my head around on that one. Always have worked C4D>AE. Any good tips, plugins, scripts, or tuts? #mochat9:44 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

yeah.. I tend to let AE hadle that.. rather than worry about it in c4d #mochat9:45 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

try rendering the same comp with PNGs and then again as tiffs. why the slow PNG seq rendering? #mochat9:45 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

The problem comes in if I’m trying to match exact timing. I’ve had things drift for seemingly no reason. #mochat9:45 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

make sure you have the latest plugins from maxons web page.. http://t.co/AvGx9iYO C4D>AE & AE > C4D #mochat9:46 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I’ll give it a try. let you know what I find if you care? #mochat9:46 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Are you using the new higher performance plug-ins from fnord for OpenEXR? http://t.co/loWU3A1b #mochat9:47 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

good point! Because that has been a bump in the road for me once. #mochat9:48 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

maybe Im not that precise? figured it wouldn’t become an issue until I reached the 10 min mark. slipping by 2 sec.#badEditor #mochat9:48 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

for sure. turned me on to a ver of tiff that handles alpha & is small sized like png. works only in ae not c4d #mochat9:48 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I had it happen where an animated material in C4D interpreted 23.976 as 23. Slipped pretty quickly. #mochat9:49 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

eeeek not good. #mochat9:49 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

What’s your biggest complaint/problem with working with After Effects and Cinema4D together? #mochat9:50 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Not having 23.976, 29.97, or 59.94 in C4D! #mochat9:51 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : What’s your biggest complaint/problem with working with After Effects and Cinema4D together? #mochat9:51 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

3d space in ae is cumbersome. #mochat9:51 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Object buffers customizability & render pass management in Cinema 4D. Installing newest OpenEXR AE updates at every machine #mochat9:51 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Really the new plug-ins from Maxon have made everything really smooth and for the most part seamless. #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Have you told ? #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : What’s your biggest complaint/problem with working with After Effects and Cinema4D together? #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

And that one. Wish the 3D space navigation in AE worked similar to C4D #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Actually, coordinate system mismatches are also bothersome, but understandable as to why they occur. #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

started watching the AME video you posted about parallel encoding, and presets. Looks great! Gotta use AME more. #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Heard loud and clear. #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Yes. Several times. #mochat9:52 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Honestly none. I have C4D Prime, so had it not been for AE, I would have had no DOF control! #mochat9:53 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Aye if they can integrate the Maxon Progressive Keyframes script from Cineversity that would be awesome. #mochat9:53 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

There are several more AME videos on that site, many by me. Just search for ‘adobe media encoder’ on video2brain. #mochat9:53 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I’ll have to look that one up! #mochat9:53 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Will do, thanks #mochat9:54 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

my biggest beef is I can’t just render out a pass from C4d, it needs to make an rgb pass too #mochat9:55 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Rick Barret made it for Mike the monkey about 2-3 NABs ago.. its available still but kinda Klugey #mochat9:55 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

amen to that. The object buffer customization is something I’d really like to see in an update or new release #mochat9:56 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

We’re just about out of time for tonight. Any last minute questions or tips on C4D/AE workflows? #mochat9:56 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

arent the axisees inverted as well.. and importing objs from c4d sometimes has the normals reversed..but Im being nitpicky. #mochat9:57 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

The AEC file when only need to update a camera or solid. #mochat9:57 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : Not having 23.976, 29.97, or 59.94 in C4D! #mochat9:57 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

RT : And that one. Wish the 3D space navigation in AE worked similar to C4D #mochat9:58 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Ive exported just Lights and Nulls from AEC and used them in Optical Flares. worked great. complex light grids from c4d into AE #mochat9:58 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

would love to see a simple, native shadow catcher solution. #mochat9:58 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

One way to help integrate ae and c4d better: make templates shortcuts in the style of each app. Like ppro does for fcp users #mochat9:59 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

In 3D comps, or coming out of C4D? I know there’s a shadow catcher plugin for C4D. #mochat9:59 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Support the C4D r14 camera morph tag!! #mochat10:00 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

I rarely use GI, so that could be the case. #mochat10:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Well that does it for tonight’s #mochat everyone. But feel free to keep the conversations going.10:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

And thanks to for once again taking our questions & concerns. #mochat10:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Look for the #mochat transcript tomorrow on . Good night everyone. And as always, go make something!10:02 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012

Thanks for doing this. #mochat10:03 PM (EDT) Sep 25th, 2012